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. >>> reality star kim kardashian is making headlines this morning. big announcement kanye west made. >>> a look at highway 4 shows traffic moving along very nicely. we will take a look at the parts of the east bay coming up. >>> it's cold out there. it will be mostly sunny today. upper 40s and very low 50s. >>> people in new zealand are already celebrating a new year. you're looking at the sky tower there in new zealand. it it will up the sky at midnight as people honked their horns and cheered for what 2013 might bring. organizers for the big celebration in new york did one last test to make sure things are ready. the 12,000-pound ball will rise 130 feet tonight in front of thousands of people. nearly 27 water crystals cover the ball. we'll have more on the local new years eve celebrations coming up in our 5:00 hour. >>> this morning secretary of state hillary clinton remains under observation at a new york hospital after being treated for a blood clot. a spokesman says doctors discovered the clot during a follow up exam. the 65-year-old secretary o
. >>> reality star kim kardashian is making headlines this morning. big announcement kanye west made. >>> a look at highway 4 shows traffic moving along very nicely. we will take a look at the parts of the east bay coming up. >>> it's cold out there. it will be mostly sunny today. upper 40s and very low 50s. >>> people in new zealand are already celebrating a new year. you're looking at the sky tower there in new zealand. it it will up the sky at midnight as...
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. >>> kim kardashian is trending after news the reality star is pregnant with kanye west's baby. she made the announcement during her show. e news says it's confirmed with the kardashian family that kim who is 32 is 12 weeks pregnant and her divorce from nba store chris humphrey is not yet finalized. >> do you think the name kim kardashian will be banned? >> probably not. >>> tara is back. she's watching our commute. >> i was waiting for you to say that. i was thinking the same thing. let's ban the word kardashian. that would make my new year. let's take a look at traffic shall we? roadways are looking pretty good. we can take a live look at the east shore freeway. traffic there headlights are westbound as you make the drive toward the bay bridge toll plaza where we have no delays. 880 near the oakland coliseum same story. traffic looking good. those headlights are southbound as you make the drive. and finally in the south bay 280 at the 880 split those traffics are northbound. 5:50 steve. >>> tara. >> how's it going? >> it's going well. it's mainly cold. little south breeze alon
. >>> kim kardashian is trending after news the reality star is pregnant with kanye west's baby. she made the announcement during her show. e news says it's confirmed with the kardashian family that kim who is 32 is 12 weeks pregnant and her divorce from nba store chris humphrey is not yet finalized. >> do you think the name kim kardashian will be banned? >> probably not. >>> tara is back. she's watching our commute. >> i was waiting for you to say that. i...
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e news has confirmed with the kardashian family and he said, yes, kim kardashian is 12 weeks pregnant. her divorce from chris humphreys is not yet -- kris humphreys is not yet finalized. >>> those going to the rose parade are not allowed to stake out a spot until noon today. after the parade is the granddaddy of all bowl games. it's been 12 years since the stanford cardinal played in the game which they are doing tomorrow. coming up at 8:30, we'll he go live to pasadena for a live preview with fred inglis and cardinal fans who didn't get a ticket can watch at several bay area viewing parties. in palo alto, they are going to the patio. in ap, the comraws -- in napa, the comrades rio grille. there are parties in france, brazil, efwhere. >> hopefully it will -- it will bring them luck. >> yes. >>> tara? >> the chp log is looking pretty good at this hour. not a lot of incidents to report. in the south bay, 280 at the 880 split, we have free-flowing traffic. at the bay bridge toll plaza, no metering lights. we did have an earlier stall, ate 0 eastbound. that's in the opposite direction of
e news has confirmed with the kardashian family and he said, yes, kim kardashian is 12 weeks pregnant. her divorce from chris humphreys is not yet -- kris humphreys is not yet finalized. >>> those going to the rose parade are not allowed to stake out a spot until noon today. after the parade is the granddaddy of all bowl games. it's been 12 years since the stanford cardinal played in the game which they are doing tomorrow. coming up at 8:30, we'll he go live to pasadena for a live...
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kim kardashian and kanye west expecting a baby. new year's eve preps and the new york giants open their hearts to the families of newtown, connecticut. >>> very good morning to you. nice to see you this morning. we begin with secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital. clinton was admitted to new york presbyterian hospital after a blood clot stemming from the concussion she sustained. cloth was discovered during a followup exam on sunday. she's being treated with blood thinners and doctors will monitor the medication over the next two days. the 65-year-old clinton fell and suffered a concussion and fainted while home alone in december as she recovered from a stomach virus. clinton had been planning to return network this week. >>> it is crunch time on capitol hill. senate and house negotiators have a few crucial hours left to come up with a compromise to avert the looming financial mess. if they don't here's what will happen. everyone's tax rates will go up. $1.2 trillion in federal spending cuts kick in. the payroll tax ho
kim kardashian and kanye west expecting a baby. new year's eve preps and the new york giants open their hearts to the families of newtown, connecticut. >>> very good morning to you. nice to see you this morning. we begin with secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital. clinton was admitted to new york presbyterian hospital after a blood clot stemming from the concussion she sustained. cloth was discovered during a followup exam on sunday. she's being treated with blood thinners...
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and kim kardashian has a baby growing in her house. it's kanye's. >> it is kanye's. >> her rep confirmed she's just about done with her first trimester. she's pregnant with their first child. he kind of let the cat out of the hat, he spilled the beans at his concert late sunday night into monday morning, he said something about his baby's momma in the house. that got the twitter sphere really going and then her rep confirmed. everybody congratulating them. even her family has said, her sister khloe said keeping secrets is so hard. with so many family members. her other sister saying i've been wanting to shout from the rooftops with joy. and now i can. another angel for the family. her divorce is not finalized from kris humphries. but she's about 12 weeks pregnant. he is going to be a daddy. >> congrats to them. >>> this is pretty cool. how would you like to join beyonce on stage at the halftime show of the super bowl? >> do i have to dance? >> would you like to dance? >> i would imagine you do have to dance. there will be enough people
and kim kardashian has a baby growing in her house. it's kanye's. >> it is kanye's. >> her rep confirmed she's just about done with her first trimester. she's pregnant with their first child. he kind of let the cat out of the hat, he spilled the beans at his concert late sunday night into monday morning, he said something about his baby's momma in the house. that got the twitter sphere really going and then her rep confirmed. everybody congratulating them. even her family has said,...
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the news tonight about kim kardashian becoming a mother. >>> fans of a san francisco museum have only days left before it moves to a new home. >>> it was clear today but will the rain hold off for tomorrow's new year's eve celebrations? mark tamayo joins us next with >>> a very nice weekend here in the bay area. we get a break from the rain right now we have lots of clear skies, but definitely want to bundle up. temperatures dropping through the evening. you can pick up on the satellite a very clear sky. you can go ahead and deploy the temperature sensors. look at the totals through truckee. right now it is 5 degrees through this 10:00 hour on truckee. they are on track to reach an overnight low of nine below. back here in the bay area, we have temperatures into the 30s to 40s. livermore right now 38. nevato 37. first thing tomorrow morning. patchy frog especially in the inland valleys. coolest locations in the upper 20s, so definitely want to bundle up early monday morning. san francisco right about 40 and mountain view 36 degrees. already thinking about the new year's plans we can s
the news tonight about kim kardashian becoming a mother. >>> fans of a san francisco museum have only days left before it moves to a new home. >>> it was clear today but will the rain hold off for tomorrow's new year's eve celebrations? mark tamayo joins us next with >>> a very nice weekend here in the bay area. we get a break from the rain right now we have lots of clear skies, but definitely want to bundle up. temperatures dropping through the evening. you can pick...
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now the word is out that kim kardashian is pregnant. she is still legally married to nba player chris humphries although she filed for divorce more than a year ago. that was 72 days after their wedding. still ahead, the weather. >> breaking news regarding the negotiations on the fiscal cliff. according to the associated press, the contour is of a deal are emerging that would raise tax rates on couples making over $450,000 per year and would raise the estate tax rates and extend unemployment benefits for one year. all this according to officials familiar with negotiations. an australian surfer is counting his blessings after a close call. let's roll video while we talk. there is. a shark attacked him just feet away from the shore. a seven-foot shark. a guy lost a finger recently. >> a different guy? >> a different one. how is it looking? pretty decent today, partly sunny this afternoon, highs in the mid 30's. a little light rain and snow possible this evening, but more likely tomorrow. >> we will take it for the end of the year. we will
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we will not see any accumulation. ♪ >> kim kardashian and kanye west are expecting. we'll have details of that surprise baby news as the world gets ready for the arrival of the new year tonight. i'm erica hill alongside willie geist in for matt and savannah. i spent all night on twitter making sure i was totally up-to-date. >> people were very twitter on busy with that story. >>> hollywood could not have scripted a better ending to 2012, successful year coming to a close with big blockbusters that have crowds flocking to the theaters. >> the most dangerous drugs out there are probably things like cocaine and heroin, but it turns out overdoses from prescription drugs kill more people than both of those drugs combined and why the epidemic is growing. how to help someone if you think they have a problem. >>> was this woman going too far, breastfeeding her 3-year-old, or was she a better mom for doing it? >>> can women really have it all? we'll talk to three women who sparked a lot of soul searching this year. kim kardashian and kanye west are expect iing their first chi
we will not see any accumulation. ♪ >> kim kardashian and kanye west are expecting. we'll have details of that surprise baby news as the world gets ready for the arrival of the new year tonight. i'm erica hill alongside willie geist in for matt and savannah. i spent all night on twitter making sure i was totally up-to-date. >> people were very twitter on busy with that story. >>> hollywood could not have scripted a better ending to 2012, successful year coming to a close...
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and kim kardashian has got a baby growing in her house. it's kanye's. >> it is kanye's. >> her rep confirmed she's just about done with her first trimester. he kind of let the cat out of the hat, he stilled the beans at his concert late sunday night into monday morning, he said something about his baby's momma in the house. then her rep confirmed. each her family has said -- her sister khloe said keeping secrets is so hard. her other sister saying i've been wanting to shout from the roof tops. her divorce is not final from kris humphries. >> congrats to them. how would you like to join beyonce on stage at the halftime show of the super bowl? >> would you like to dance? >> i would imagine you do have to dance. check it out. they've got a contest that will give fans a chance to submit photos for a tv ad. 100 fans will state the stage when he performs in new orleans. the contest kicks off saturday and fans can submit these photos in various poses. >> i don't know what you're saying, i'm just watching beyonce. people out of 100 actually get to
and kim kardashian has got a baby growing in her house. it's kanye's. >> it is kanye's. >> her rep confirmed she's just about done with her first trimester. he kind of let the cat out of the hat, he stilled the beans at his concert late sunday night into monday morning, he said something about his baby's momma in the house. then her rep confirmed. each her family has said -- her sister khloe said keeping secrets is so hard. her other sister saying i've been wanting to shout from the...
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kim kardashian is pregnant. we believe this time it's kanye's baby and the fiscal cliff countdown thing, it's about to get serious. >>> i'm steve kornacki. fiscal cliff tops the list of banished words. sloped does not agree on the list. i fully agree. >> >>> i'm crystal ball. never again after today. who am i kidding? cliff, cliff, cliff! i can't stop myself. >>> the latest on kim kardashian, kanye and the baby ahead but the other story in the headlines today. america staring down the fiscal cliff. t-minus nine hours and counting and washington is wasting no time. senate minority leader mcconnell saying both sides are close to a deal. it's about time. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain. whatever you want to call it. that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way. with this congress, that was obviously a little bit too much to hope for at this time. it may be we can do it in stages. >> there are a nu
kim kardashian is pregnant. we believe this time it's kanye's baby and the fiscal cliff countdown thing, it's about to get serious. >>> i'm steve kornacki. fiscal cliff tops the list of banished words. sloped does not agree on the list. i fully agree. >> >>> i'm crystal ball. never again after today. who am i kidding? cliff, cliff, cliff! i can't stop myself. >>> the latest on kim kardashian, kanye and the baby ahead but the other story in the headlines today....
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reality tv star kim kardashian and rapper kanye west are expecting their first child. west made the announcement last night at a concert in atlantic city. west is 35. kardashian is 32, she is in the process of divorcing kris humphries, whom she married in 2011. >>> still ruled at the box office, stayed on top for a third straight week despite serious competition. "djang unchained" debuted in second place and "les mis" came in third. >>> long underwear may be a must tonight for anyone ringing in the new year in times square, the chilliest since 2009 and 20 degrees colder than last year. midnight kisses might generate just enough heat. and all those people. it is 9:04. back to al with another check of the weather, sending a virtual kiss for new year's to aal. >> announcer: "today's" weather is brought to you by kellogg's special k products. >> nice way to start the year, a virtual smooch from andrea canning. very nice. we are here at the rosemont pavilion, where they put together some of the floats for this year's 124th tournament of roses parade. rfd 3d float. over 10,0
reality tv star kim kardashian and rapper kanye west are expecting their first child. west made the announcement last night at a concert in atlantic city. west is 35. kardashian is 32, she is in the process of divorcing kris humphries, whom she married in 2011. >>> still ruled at the box office, stayed on top for a third straight week despite serious competition. "djang unchained" debuted in second place and "les mis" came in third. >>> long underwear may...
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kim kardashian is pregnant with kanye west's child. for more information on these stories or any of the stores we talk about this money, had to wjla.com and look for the monday express tab. time to check on the commute. >> the commute for new year's eve moving very nicely. no accidents along 95. looking good at roundabout way in maryland. no problems there. this is pretty much what the bill would looks like all over the region. nothing reported in the way over dulles airport, toll road, near route 28. loading nicely. light traffic from the airport to the beltway. >> sounds like a great way to end the new year. check out the sun rise -- >> beautiful out there. >> burgundy and gold. 30 degrees is our temperature. a beautiful start. you can see the cloud, high and fans of that are out there. but, mostly cloudy by the end of the day. temperatures will make it into the middle for a's. about average or just above average. new year's day, a bit of a wintry mix. more rain than anything else. a little slow. no accumulation, not much to worry ab
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kim kardashian and kanye west's big baby announcement. also, sydney, australia celebrating the new year just three hours ago with fireworks over the famous opera house. in new york city, an already crowded times square. people waking up there. our big question what is your new year's resolution for 2013? tweet me at richard lui. we'll share some of your comments later. >>> a live look at the markets which appear to be taking going over the fiscal cliff in stride. many people say it is built into the market. many investors are still confident leaders will strike some sort of deal as talks go down to the wire and even if they don't they are counting on senate majority leader harry reid to present a backup proposal to limit some of the damage. we're watching live pictures on the right-hand side of your screen. senator barbara boxer speaking. they just reconvened about 15 minutes ago. we continue to keep our ears on the floor as they debate what we believe to be the latest offer coming from vice president biden. joining me live right now repu
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like her or love her, everybody is invested in kim kardashian. >> we'll be watching. felicia quarrels, happy new year. >>> now let's head to pasadena for a check of the weather from al. >> announcer: "today's" weather is brought to you by kellogg's special k products. >> good morning, everybody. we're here at the rosemont pavilion in beautiful pasadena where they are putting the final touches on the trader joe's float. everything has to be covered by some sort of plant life. take a look at this. this is how intricate it is. everything put on by hand, seeds, grasses, little lentils all cut -- these lentils have been cut in half for god of wor. let's see what we have for you weatherwise today. temperatures will be taking a big drop across the country. look at today. temperatures from 10 to 20 degrees above normal west of the mississippi. as we move through the week you will see cold air making it through the eastern, northern half of the country all the way into new england. temperatures anywhere from 10 to 30 degrees below normal as we move into wednesday. only warm sp
like her or love her, everybody is invested in kim kardashian. >> we'll be watching. felicia quarrels, happy new year. >>> now let's head to pasadena for a check of the weather from al. >> announcer: "today's" weather is brought to you by kellogg's special k products. >> good morning, everybody. we're here at the rosemont pavilion in beautiful pasadena where they are putting the final touches on the trader joe's float. everything has to be covered by some...
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. >> a new reality for kanye west and his girlfriend kim kardashian. they are latest "collaboration" coming up. greeting lucky charms?! ♪ yer always after me lucky charms! whoa. i forgot how good these taste! [ lucky ] ♪ they're magically delicious now all general mills big g kid cereals have more whole grain than any other ingredient in cereals like lucky charms and cinnamon toast crunch, the delicious way to help them grow up strong. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only takes a few twists and turns for those bright ideas to make the new year even brighter. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. start fresh and save with hdx 20 gallon totes, a special buy at just $5.88 a piece. >>> tonight should be a good new year's eve for the revelers. temperatures chilly and 40s and low 50s. >> that didn't take long. we already cleared an accident on the upper deck of the bay bridge. never caused any huge d
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dropping the new policy afterr users like kim kardashian raiser a stink so why is another using california suing? eric: folks keep digging out the flight delays keep racking up, 1300 flights canceled so far so this winter storm. chicago o'hare airport with the very latest. mike. >> they talk about the flight cancellations, let me start you out with good news. the mega ripple slowing downhe flights all the way out to los angeles didn't happen. i can tell you the places you see the cancellationres are with the destination. ohio, michigan, indiana stretching all the way out to the eastern seaboard if the city is sucked in, that is where the flights are being canceled. still a very serious storm, six people killed, mostly people whw elected to get out on the lik roadways. iow these are states like iowa, indiana, illinois with more than a foot of snow pouring down. all those people trying to get home now between them and home e windw, ice and gale forc gusts up to 50 miles per hour. also whipping up a number of tornadoes.tes. we have places like church, they missed midnight mass, several church
dropping the new policy afterr users like kim kardashian raiser a stink so why is another using california suing? eric: folks keep digging out the flight delays keep racking up, 1300 flights canceled so far so this winter storm. chicago o'hare airport with the very latest. mike. >> they talk about the flight cancellations, let me start you out with good news. the mega ripple slowing downhe flights all the way out to los angeles didn't happen. i can tell you the places you see the...
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we'll have an update and snap, share, sue, instagram dropping their new policy after user like kim kardashian raised a stink. why is another user in california suing? a hyhyhyhyhy the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? >>> as folks dig out, the flight delays delays rack up. nearly 1300 flits canceledo far. mike tobin is at chicago's o'hare with the latest. >> when you talk about the flight cancellations, the hubs of o'hare, atlanta, did not get hit so the megaripple didn't happen. the places that you see the cancel legislations are the destination. ohio, michigan, indiana, stretching all the way to the eastern seaboard. if that
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we'll have an update and snap, share, sue, instagram dropping their new policy after user like kim kardashian raised a stink. why is another user in california suing? just no fun to drive. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. and i'm here to tell homeowners that are 62 and older about a great way to live a better retirement. it's called a reverse mortgage. [ male announcer ] call right now to receive your free dvd and booklet with no obligation. it answers questions like how a reverse mortgage works, how much you qualify for, the ways to receive your money, and more. plus, when you call now, you'll get this magnifier with l.e.d. light absolutely free. when you call the experts at one reverse mortgage today, you'll learn the benefits of a government-insured reverse mortgage. it will eliminate your monthly mortgage payments and give
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kimmy kanye will be harder to keep up with the car dash ans because kim kardashian and kanye west are expecting their first child together. kanye rapped about the pregnancy in atlantic city and the news quickly went viral. move over, blue ivy, there's a new celebrity baby in town. >> people will do anything to keep their ratings going, i tell you. i see a sequel. >>> still to come, the biggest losing trades of the year. and don't make the same mistake twice. josh brown's three best investing lessons of 2012. and later, coffee talk. is green mountain still a hot stock? we'll debate it after this. >>> "fast money" isn't just about a bull market. it will be going up, down or sideways. >> in the blink of an eye, everything changes. you have to be able to surround the trade. >> we are all doing what we do for a living and we are altogether as a team, but we come at it from a different perspective. >> it is really what drives up the value of a show. >> i am john, i am fast money. >> i am fast money. >> i am steve. i am "fast money." change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south
kimmy kanye will be harder to keep up with the car dash ans because kim kardashian and kanye west are expecting their first child together. kanye rapped about the pregnancy in atlantic city and the news quickly went viral. move over, blue ivy, there's a new celebrity baby in town. >> people will do anything to keep their ratings going, i tell you. i see a sequel. >>> still to come, the biggest losing trades of the year. and don't make the same mistake twice. josh brown's three...
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. >>> and the kardashian clan about to get bigger. kim's big announcement. watch us any time at your desk top or mobile phone, go to cnn.com/tv. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> all right. down to the wire. still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine roman
. >>> and the kardashian clan about to get bigger. kim's big announcement. watch us any time at your desk top or mobile phone, go to cnn.com/tv. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still...